NTSB Hearing Document se-4661

This is the transcript (se-4661) of Jim Campbell's 1980 NTSB hearing.
After hearing the evidence and Campbell's testimony the Judge ruled that Campbell's
 personality disorder disqualified him from an FAA Medical or Pilot Certificate.

This document has been scanned directly from an NTSB certified original.



             BEFORE THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
        
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In the Matter of:                     :
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LANGHORNE M. BOND, ADMINISTRATOR,     :       Docket Number
FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION,      :       SE-4661
Complainant,                          :
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JAMES RICHARD CAMPBELL,               :
                  Respondent.         :
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Tuesday, November 18, 1980
26 Federal Plaza, Room 208
New York, New York
        
          The above-entitled matter came up for hearing pursuant to Notice
at 9:15 a.m.
        
BEFORE:   The HONORABLE JOYCE CAPPS, Administrative Law Judge.
        
APPEARANCES:       
     For the Administrator:
          SHARON HAUSELT, ESQ.
          Federal Aviation Administration
          800 Independence Avenue Southwest
          Washington, DC 20591
        
     For the Respondent:
          JAMES RICHARD CAMPBELL
          41 Stone Fence Road
          Oakland, New Jersey


                                I N D E X
                                                                 FUR. FUR.
     WITNESS             DIRECT    CROSS     REDIRECT  RECROSS   RD.  RC.
        
     Sandra Taylor       33        58        80        82
        
     Thomas Powers       84
                         (Cont.)
                         133       162       181       183       184
        
     Barton Pakull       187       202
        
     James Campbell      209       224


                             E X H I B I T S
        
     EXHIBITS NO.             FOR IDENTIFICATION   IN EVIDENCE

     Administrator's No. 1         5

     Administrator's No. 2         103                103




                         P R O C E E D I N G S

JUDGE CAPPS: This opens the hearing in the matter of Langhorne M. Bond,
Administrator, Federal Aviation Administration, Complainant, versus James
Richard Campbell, Respondent, docket number SEÄ4661.

My name is Joyce Capps, the Judge who's been assigned  to hear and decide
this case.

Will counsel for the Government represent herself, please.

MS. HAUSELT: Sharon Hauselt, H-A-U-S-E-L-T, 800 Independence Avenue
Southwest, Washington, DC 20591.

JUDGE CAPPS: Sir, you are Mr. James Richard Campbell, the Respondent
herein?

MR. CAMPBELL: Yes, ma'am, I am.

JUDGE CAPPS: And you have no counsel?

MR. CAMPBELL: No, ma'am, I couldn't afford it.

JUDGE CAPPS: all right, the Government does have the burden of proof in
this case.  Do you wish to give an opening statement?

MS. HAUSELT: Your Honor, I have a couple of preliminary matters and then I
would give an opening statement.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right, I'll entertain some preliminary matters.

MS. HAUSELT: The first one is I never received any information from Mr.
Campbell with regard to a discovery request, so at this time I'd like to
know if he intends to put any witnesses other than himself.

MR. CAMPBELL: No, I do not.

MS, HAUSELT: Also, Your Honor, prior to giving my opening statement I would
like to introduce into evidence the record so that as I'm speaking, you
could refer to the record.

JUDGE CAPS: All right. Is this the packet of medical evidence and
applications that are involved in this particular case?

MS. HAUSELT: Right. I never certified a true copy of Mr. Campbell's medical
records which also includes copies of all his Interim Certificates, and I
would offer them as Administrator's Exhibit No. 1.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right. Mr. Campbell, have you seen this document?

MR. CAMPBELL: I believe I've seen most of them.

MS. HAUSELT: I have a copy for Mr. Campbell.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right. I'll take it and mark it - This is the standard
packet of documents that comes into every medical case. The reason I ask
you to obtain a copy of it is usually a copy is furnished to the Respondent
in the case, and I want to make sure that was done.

MR. CAMPBELL: I requested my file sometime ago and I didn't receive it. I
believe that's all the information that's been gathered up until this
point.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right. (Whereupon, the document described was marked for
identification as Administrator's Exhibit No. 1.

JUDGE CAPPS: Are you a member of the Bar? Are you an attorney?

MR. CAMPBELL: No, ma'am, I'm not.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right. Let me caution you to this, Mr. Campbell. You have
no attorney representing you, but yet I want everything that goes on during
these proceedings to be fully understood by you. So, therefore, if anything
occurs throughout this proceeding that you don't fully understand, don't
hesitate to ask me to explain it. I'll be happy to do it. I want to do it,
because this is your day in Court, and I want you to fully understand just
what is occurring as far as procedure is concerned, because you're not
being a lawyer, you know, some of these things might be new to you. But I
want to assure you that things will be conducted according to the accepted
modes of procedure around here, as long as I'm sitting up here.

MR. CAMPBELL: Thank you.

JUDGE CAPPS: Now, don't be shy about it. You just pipe right up if you've
got a question.  All right, now, what we're doing now is what occurs in
every trial. Both sides have a chance to get up and tell the Court what
their evidence will show; their theory of the text; they're showing what
evidence they've got to support the allegations they have made.  You will
have the same opportunity to explain to me what you will put forth by way
of evidence to convince me of your side of the case. Now, this is called
opening statement.  I'm going to hear the opening statement of the person
having the burden of proof here, which is the Government.

MS. HAUSELT: Judge Capps, as I speak, I'm going to refer to the record, and
I will try to give you the page numbers because it's quite a long and
lengthy record, and we're talking about a period of time here, I believe
going back as far as 1974.

First of all, the section that we're dealing with, as you know, is a
personality disorder which has been severe enough to have manifested itself
by repeated overt acts and by that the term, personality disorder, you'll
hear testimony from Drs. Pakull and Dr. Powers indicating that a
personality disorder is a deeply ingrained maladaptive pattern of behavior.
So, what we're talking about here is not just an occasional lapse that any
person might have. We are talking about a pattern of behavior that has
repeated itself over a period of time, and it's something which is a
serious mental illness, and because of that has been found to be a
specifically disqualifying trait under the Regulations.

Now, there's two parts to what we have to show. We have to show you that
there's a personality disorder and, also, that it is of such a nature that
it's severe enough to have manifested itself by repeated overt acts, and
we'll be going into quite a bit of detail of over twenty different episodes
in time, which we will offer as the overt acts.

Just speaking to the file itself, and sort of the chronology of the events
here -- Mr. Campbell, I believe, graduated from high school in 1974 and
from information which he gave Dr. Powers -- Dr. Powers is a psychiatrist
who saw him at FAA request. Now, from information that we received from Dr.
Powers, following high school Mr. Campbell went out to Colorado, so that
would be sometime in -- sometime in the summer of 1974. He remained there
for approximately a year and a half. Having a problem with a personal
relationship which he related to Dr. Powers, he then returned to his home
in New York City and lived with his parents. In November of 1977, Mr.
Campbell attempted to jump off the World Trade Center in New York. However,
he was stopped by the guards at the top of the World Trade Center, and he
was not able to complete the jump, and at that time he was arrested. He was
attempting to parachute jump, I may add. And that is documented -- the
arrest, itself, is documented on pages 94 through 101, which includes his
arrest record in New York State.

In the Fall of 1978, approximately the month of October, November and
December, Mr. Campbell resided in the area of Tulsa, Oklahoma, and at that
time, and I refer Your Honor to pages 46 and 47 -- Mr. Campbell presented
himself to friends and acquaintances as a doctor, and, in fact, was giving
friends and acquaintances drugs, and these people complained to the
authorities and that is how this problem came to light.

Following that escapade, the authorities found out about it, and rather
than put him in jail or arrest him they requested that his family return
him to New Jersey where he could receive psychiatric care.  He did, in
fact, return to New Jersey with his father, where he underwent
psychotherapy for about five months, about January to May of 1979,
receiving treatment from a Dr. Dorsey, who was recommended to Mr. Campbell
by his grandfather, who is a doctor. And Dr. Dorsey's report is included in
-

JUDGE CAPPS: Dr. who?

MS. HAUSELT: Dorsey, D-O-R-S-E-Y. And his report is included on page 54.

Mr. Campbell, then, in May of 1979, went to the area of Atlanta, Georgia
where he was employed by Brown Aviation, Incorporated, and we have
information in the file on page 36 from a Mr. Brown indicating that for the
first two months Mr. Campbell was an ideal employee and he had no
complaints whatsoever with him. However, in about the third month of his
employment his mood began to shift quite frequently and he was -- Mr. Brown
caught him in a number of fabrications and stories which were preposterous
and untrue.

He was subsequently fired from that position, and at that time, or shortly
thereafter in September and October of 1979 Mr. Campbell turned up in New
Hampshire, and there he received employment from Nashua Aviation in Nashua,
New Hampshire and that is how Inspector Taylor, who will be testifying,
came to meet Mr. Campbell. While employed by Nashua Aviation, he was also
temporarily employed by Daniel Webster College, which is a small college
nearby.

While in New Hampshire, Mr. Campbell indicated that he was qualified in a
variety of areas, including being a stuntman, being a member of the Screen
Actors Guild, having formerly taught in the Aircraft Owners and Pilots
Association Ground School. All of those claims were subsequently proved to
be false. He also attempted to start up a parachute club while up in New
Hampshire, and in relationship to his employment at the college, and at
that time he indicated he was qualified as a parachute rigger, which, under
the Federal Aviation Regulations is regulated, and you do need a
certificate for that. He did not have such a certificate.

JUDGE CAPPS: Is he a parachute -

MS. HAUSELT: Parachute rigger.

JUDGE CAPPS: Rigger ?

MS. HAUSELT: You have to pack parachutes.

JUDGE CAPPS: What was his employment at Webster College ?

MS. HAUSELT: He was employed to teach, I believe, courses relating to
ground school type courses -- meteorology and some flying. He was also
doing some flight instructing at Nashua Aviation .  During the time he was
attempting to set up this parachute club, he also claimed to be a certified
jump instructor, which is something regulated by the U. S. Parachute
Association. He claimed to be affiliated with them. In fact, he was not
current at the time he was attempting to set up this program for
parachuting. And a variety of other problems came to light, including the
newspaper article which I referred to on page 46 and 47, which is the
account of his masquerade as a doctor in Oklahoma.

That article came to light on the campus at Daniel Webster. His
qualifications were subsequently brought into question and also due to that
question, various other discrepancies in his record turned up in addition
to those that I have mentioned with regard to teaching and not being
qualified as a parachute rigger, and various other claims made to other
people .

About this time the FAA got wind of a question with regard to Mr.
Campbell's medical qualifications for a first class, in particular, medical
certificate, and Dr. Cahill, who is the Regional Flight Surgeon in New
York, requested some information from Mr. Campbell, and at that time Mr.
Campbell was -- around this time Mr. Campbell was fired from Daniel Webster
and told people in the area he was leaving to go to Florida.

He subsequently turned up in California where he managed to get employment,
again, with Webster & Piper Sales in Fresno, November of 1979, and in the
record there's a letter from Dianne Stuart of Webster & Piper Sale
indicating problems, which again surfaced with Mr. Campbell's employment,
concerning false representations of qualification.

JUDGE CAPPS: When was this employment?

MS. HAUSELT: This employment was November of 1979 up through about January
16th, 1980.  Various claims were made by Mr. Campbell in the area of stunts
and airman certification which were untrue. Stories surfaced with regard to
his past, and a tragedy having occurred in his past which he claimed, which
were untrue.  There were problems with his teaching, and he was also
questioned as far as having taken certain items from the company, so he was
fired, again, from Webster & Piper Sales.  And, he then managed to talk
himself into another job in Nappa, California, where he was employed in
February -from February 4th to approximately February 29th, 1980.

And, while there, the FAA had finally accumulated and traced down all of
these various leads and stories that had been going on from one side of the
country to the other, and at that time his medical certificates were
suspended for failure to provide, and, subsequently, on receiving more
information from him and having him evaluated by Dr. Powers, the FAA issued
an Order of Revocation which is the subject of this hearing today.

I'd like to point out to Your Honor that in a case of this type it is just
virtually impossible for the FAA to subpoena all of the people who have
indicated that various stories and lies and behaviors of Mr. Campbell's
were abnormal, but there are letters from all of these people in the file,
and I have spoken to them myself, personally, as has Miss Taylor.

JUDGE CAPPS: Who is Miss Taylor?

MS. HAUSELT: Miss Taylor is an Inspector from New Hampshire, GATO
Inspector, and she'll be testifying for the Administrator.

Your Honor, I would just caution you at this point that part of the
personality disorder -- part of the problem we're speaking of here is a
very adaptability to lie, and through the testimony of Dr. Powers, Dr.
Pakull and Miss Taylor I will attempt to show the variety of
inconsistencies which appear in this file, and, also, Mr. Campbell is not
just here because he fabricates stories. We're talking about some stories
which have gone beyond the bounds of just a little white lie. We're talking
about stories such as pawning oneself off as being capable of rigging
parachutes for other people, when one is not qualified, such a claim being
something which could severely injure another person.

Also, we're talking about making a claim of being a doctor when one is not
qualified, and issuing drugs and whatnot; offering one's assistance to
people in need of medical when one is not qualified. So, we're talking
about a situation where a person consistently puts himself in a position of
being unable to resist the impulse to fabricate a story in order to improve
or to build up a grandiose self image, and this is not something which is a
mere personality trait which can be considered fleeting. This is something
which is an integral part of Mr. Campbell's character. By that I mean it is
a severe personality disorder, and the various episodes around the country,
I think, will support the fact that there have been many overt acts in this
case.

JUDGE CAPPS: Mr. Campbell, under the normal rules of courtroom procedure,
you are entitled to give your opening statement now, or, you can do what we
call reserve opening statement. That means let the Government put on their
case; They've got the burden of proof; let them put on their case, and
then, when they have rested, we turn to you and you can give your opening
statement. It's up to you, whichever you prefer. Do you wish to give it now
or to reserve?

MR. CAMPBELL: I will give mine now.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right.

MR. CAMPBELL: First of all, I take -- I personally disagree with quite a
few statements, both contained on the written record, and exemplified by
Ms. Hauselt. At any rate, first of all, the history up until, I would
imagine Christmas of '78, I imagine -- in other words it's up until my
departure from Tulsa, Oklahoma, is substantially correct except for a few
factors.

Specifically, number one, I left Oklahoma of my own free will, unbeknownst
to me at the time that the authorities were aware of my activities.

Number two, the authorities did not alert my parents to the problem. Excuse
me, my grandfather was first alerted to the problem by a young lady I was
familiar with, and at that point, as a matter of fact, it was the evening
of Christmas. My grandfather explained to me what was happening; that this
was abnormal and aberrant behavior and that he would like to see something
done, at which point plans for my return to Tulsa, Oklahoma were canceled.
The very next day we found out that the police were aware of the
activities.

Yes, I did represent myself, at times, as a physician; at times as a
medical student, and so forth. To the best of my knowledge I did not
dispense any type of -- I don't know what the proper word would be -- a
drug that would have to be prescribed. I did, at one period of time, give
several Tylenol capsules marked as Tylenol, in a Tylenol bottle, to a young
lady at the airport, while I was learning to fly at the time.

The article from the Tulsa World, I believe, appeared after, approximately
two weeks, maybe three weeks after my departure from Tulsa. My father, in
an attempt to find out what had happened and to clear up matters in Tulsa,
flew to Tulsa, met with this young lady who had alerted my grandfather of
the problem; Tulsa met with a representative of the Tulsa PD, at which time
it was apparently agreed upon that they would let matters lie where they
were and I would receive psychiatric care.

You have to excuse me - it's a little slow -- it's kind of hard to make up
as you go along. I really wasn't prepared for this today. At any rate, at
that point my father gathered up a great majority of my possessions, made
disposition of a few others, specifically an old car and so forth, and I
left Oklahoma with the understanding that nothing would be done by Tulsa PD
as long as I didn't show my face there again, so to speak, and this was a
quote from one of the detectives. Now, the article in the Tulsa World
contained quite a few inaccuracies, although the basic content is correct.

Following Tulsa, Oklahoma I left to go home, stayed at home from
approximately two days before Christmas to May of, I guess that's '79, and
received some care from a Dr. Dorsey of Hopewell Junction, New York. There
were not a great deal of sessions. I did gain quite a bit, but frankly I
don't feel that a lot was done; more my fault than his. Dr. Dorsey is a
rather outstanding physician -- his qualifications certainly bear that out.
I received also a great deal of care, and I think the majority of help from
my grandfather. My grandfather is a physician with a rather outstanding
psychiatric background, although he is not Board certified. He did run a
psychiatric hospital for the Army during World War II and held several high
offices with the AMA in New York State. As a GP, also, I think he had a
rather rare, but vital insight into the nature of the human mind. I have
continued that consultation with him throughout the past several years, and
my opinion has been -- well has produced the greatest benefit thus far.

In May of 19 -- I don't think it's '79, but at any rate -- May that year
when I left to go down to Perry, Georgia, I went first to Opeloca Airport
in Florida on a package deal for the CFI and Double I rating; found out
that they had changed their prices and was in the process of returning home
because I could not afford the rates. On the way back I stopped in at
Perry, Georgia. I had spoken to Mr. Brown on the phone. He had stated the
fact that he was an Examiner qualified to designate Certified Flight
Instructor of Airplane Instrument Multi-Engine. I stopped in. After a
period of time with him, explaining my difficulties and so forth, he put me
up in a small trailer there and volunteered to give me the instruction
necessary for the rating and to give me the check ride.

A friend of his, who was a Principal of the local school and a certified
flight instructor, Mr. Bob McLendon, rendered instruction, as did Mr.
Brown, and Mr. McLendon recommended me for Certified Flight Instructor
rating. At the time I was made aware of the fact that Mr. Brown had gone
through quite a large amount of flight instructors in the previous year --
I believe at least a half a dozen. There was a flight instructor there at
the time, who was also in the process of leaving. He was part-time, working
at Warner Robbins Air Force Base.

Shortly after I came on, also another flight instructor at the time, John
Williams, came onto the staff. Mr. Williams brought me a great deal of
experience and a great deal of insight into the nature of aviation and how
the so-called system worked while I worked there, and for the first
few months things were fairly good, despite the fact that I did refuse
several flights by Mr. Brown, considering the fact that his 135 Certificate
was dropped, and these were of an air-charter nature. I had also found
myself in extreme disfavor just after July 4th -- I don't know the exact
date -when his daughter eloped with one of my students. Mr. Brown accused
me of knowing about the situation, which was true, but only thirty minutes
before the actual wedding, by which time I believe Jim knew.  I really
don't know for sure; I do know he was aware very shortly, via phone call,
of his daughter's impending wedding. Quentin, the gentleman who married his
daughter, had just received his private license, as recommended by me
several weeks before. From that point my situation in regards to Mr. Brown
went steadily downhill.

Mr. Williams, the other flight instructor in residence, also had a great
deal of problems concerning policy, concerning pay, concerning promises
that were not kept and were not -well, they had made arrangements,
specifically, for a raise in pay which did not develop until approximately
a month later, although he did come through on it, and I believe Mr.
Williams was also asked to fly a few flights that would come more under 135
than 91, and Mr. Williams refused. I believe his quote is, "I'm not giving
my ticket to anybody."

I developed a rather strong friendship with Mr. Williams. He gave me a
great deal of aid and help in obtaining my Certified Flight Instructor
Instrument Airplane, and during the latter part of August I had started
making phone calls, specifically with the idea and intention of leaving
Brown Aviation. Now, Nashua Aviation, my employer afterwards, can bear this
out -- that I did make contact with them in early and late August. As a
matter of fact, going as early as June, with the possible intention of
finding employment. Eventually, I believe, I spoke to Gary Stuart on both
occasions prior to my leaving Brown, and he had indicated, "Come on up, we
need instructors", and, in fact, when I did arrive there, they were also
still short at the time with the school semester already starting.
I gave Mr. Brown what I thought was going to be two weeks notice. He
thereby informed me he did not want me around. Now, I quit. I have
witnesses to that effect. I can produce statements. You just have to give
me time, and this is, I think, easily verifiable; just a matter of tracking
the people down.

Also, and this is something I cannot prove, but I'm going to enter it
anyway -- Mr. Brown produced additional evidence of the fact that I had
been doing nasty things behind his back, simply because he had recordings
of his phone -- excuse me, of conversations made on his telephone.

JUDGE CAPPS: What type of conversations? Seeking other employment?

MR. CAMPBELL: Seeking other employment; conversations with the Pastor of my
church; conversations with my parents; conversations with friends; he had
two lines, and apparently one of them had a full-time tape recorder on it.
In fact, he played back a recording I had with my Pastor which was rather
shocking. I don't know, really, how to prove that, because he said that if
I disappeared and didn't give him anymore trouble, he was going to "destroy
them". At any rate -

MS. HAUSELT: I realize that Mr. Campbell's not a lawyer and doesn't
understand that a lot of this would be of the nature of testimony which, I
believe, should be given under oath, and I would prefer if he could just
summarize and then give the details of his testimony while he's under oath.

JUDGE CAPPS: Yes, that's true. Except so much has gone on, and this appears
to be the easiest way for him to do it. I may be able to ask him, when he's
under oath, if his testimony would be the same as the opening statement, in
narrative form.

MS. HAUSELT: I'd prefer to have it under oath at some point.

JUDGE CAPPS: Well, okay, we'll have to go through all of this, then. Do you
want to shorten it up?

MR. CAMPBELL: Yes, ma'am, if that would help the proceeding.

JUDGE CAPPS: Yes. Just tell me, generally, what you're going to show by way
of proof.

MR. CAMPBELL: Brown Aviation -- I resigned. He told me to leave
immediately, otherwise he had threatened me with arrest, and I did, in
fact, leave, by motorcycle from Perry, Georgia to Nashua, New Hampshire.
I arrived in Nashua, New Hampshire the first week of September. I assumed
employment shortly thereafter, employed both as a flight instructor for
Nashua Aviation and Supply Company and for Daniel Webster College.

During this period of time I felt I had represented myself in an honest and
fair manner, although, frankly, and things had followed me along from my
background that were very hard to explain, and frankly I had to go along
with what I had said in the past, whether or not it was true. These
statements, I felt, were of a minor nature. Anything else that I thought
was of major nature I corrected in the best way possible. Frankly, to save
my stature, and I guess I really don't know the words -- save my pride,
more likely.

I worked at Nashua Aviation and Supply Company uneventfully and with a
great deal of support from my students and from most of the people I worked
with, for several weeks, at which time a copy of the article that had
appeared in the Tulsa World appeared, first, on campus, at Daniel Webster
College, and then at Nashua Aviation and Supply Company; the people at
Daniel Webster College had supplied Nasco with that article. It was given
to the Chief Flight Instructor. At a flight instructor meeting afterwards
he asked, "Is this you?" and I said, "Yes, it is." I offered what I felt
was my justification at the time. He said, "Well, until something else
happens, just keep on going". At the time, they were happy with my work,
and for somebody to keep me after seeing an article of that nature, I was
rather flattered that they had that much confidence.

The situation was extremely difficult -- the situation was extremely
confusing and culminated, eventually, in the appearance of the FAA and two
people, a Ms. Taylor, and another gentleman who I'm afraid I don't remember
his name. We did have a discussion; I presented log books, my side of the
story and so forth. Several days later Dr. Cahill from the New England
Region -- I believe he's the Flight Surgeon, showed up at Nasco with a
letter stating in effect, and I'm paraphrasing, we find that you may or may
not be qualified to hold a medical certificate. This letter also stated he
had received, on October 10th, the date of this letter, that he had
received information from Dr. Dorsey. Dr. Dorsey's first communication to
Dr. Cahill came two days later -- October 12th. The letter from Dr. Dorsey
was rather short, rather sparse, and apparently this was intentional. Dr.
Dorsey was not aware of how much information was required.

When Dr. Cahill had presented himself at Nashua Aviation and supply
Company, he had said to my Chief Flight Instructor that I am grounded. He
had said specifically that this letter grounded me, period. And he told
Steve Rachelson that I was, in effect, grounded, although this letter
seemed to indicate differently. It only cast doubt; it was not an actual
suspension or revocation as far as I can see. I left the Nashua Aviation
and Supply Company. I left Daniel Webster College, rather upset, greatly
troubled, and specifically with the idea of finding employment somewhere
else and raising enough money to get the evaluations and/or the treatment
anybody felt I needed. Frankly, at the time, I didn't feel that I did, and
that situation has since changed.

I had said to various people that I was heading south, west, east,
overseas, whatever was the case, specifically to throw them off the track.
Specifically I did not want anybody to know where I was going, because
Tulsa had already followed me to Nashua and I was going to be damned if I
was going to let anything else spoil things while I was trying to rebuild
what had already crumbled. I had left for California after receiving a tip
from a gentleman who had instructed me for my Multi-Engine Instructor's
Certificate, about Western Piper and Fresno, California. I spoke to Mr.
Dale Ewell on the phone. Mr. Ewell said, "Fine, we need an instructor".
Mr. Ewell also said that he could get me out there by carrying a couple
airplanes from Harrisburg, which was where they were keeping several dozen
Tomahawks, to Fresno, and eventually San Jose. This I did.

JUDGE CAPPS: This is Harrisburg, Pennsylvania'?

MR. CAMPBELL: That's correct. That's where the departure was for
California. I eventually carried two Tomahawks from Harrisburg to Fresno.
I arrived in Fresno; was told I would be getting $1,000 a month, a minimum
of 100 hours flight time, various benefits and so forth. This was not to be
the case. My employment for Western Piper was rather difficult. I had some
immediate problems with another flight instructor, ego problems, frankly.
We did not get along. At first I took quite a liking to the secretary,
Dianne Stuart, which later turned into tolerance, I imagine the word is.
Mrs. Stuart and I have very divergent views on morality and so forth. I did
not get along with her, not in the slightest. Also, at Western Piper things
were catching up with me. I was really running, frankly. Stories were
popping up; some were too embarrassing to specifically deny, and as a
result I had to agree with them and say, yeah, yeah, and drop it; not the
case -- did not work that way.

Through an ad that appeared in the Fresno Bee, I believe, a daily
newspaper, there was an ad for flight instructors promising a rather large
salary at the time for a flight instructor, in Nappa, California. I made an
appointment to go up and speak to the people at the International Air
Service Company. At that time I went up and was interviewed, I was given a
flight check with one of Japan Airlines Captains, and the Chief Flight
Instructor for the International Air Service Company, and I passed it.
However, the check ride itself was simply an introductory. I was given
almost not quite a month's training in addition to the check ride, to
prepare me to be a flight instructor for Japan Airlines. I left -- I quit,
actually, about the same time I was about to be fired from Western Piper.
There were a great deal of problems; a great deal of differences; a great
deal of difficulties.

I also would like to put in the record one specific point that I told Mr.
Ewell, at the time I was hired, that I had had previous psychiatric
consultations with a physician, and that I had had personality problems. I
did attempt to downplay them, and explained that, to me, they were not all
that serious.

In Nappa, California I started working for Japan Airlines. I started in
their first several days of ground school. As a matter of fact, it was
several weeks of ground school concerning job procedures, the IASCO
procedures, aircraft systems, teaching, just the gamut -- it was absolutely
incredible the range of matter that they had us digest in a very short
period of time, including memorizing five pages of checklists and so forth.
It was difficult, very enjoyable.

I was in the process of digesting this material when Mr. Ed Scarboro, the
Chief Flight Instructor from the International Air Service Company, showed
up; said these two gentlemen who would like to speak to you. These two
gentlemen identified themselves as the FAA and said, "We would like to see
your certificates", quote, unquote -- that is all I was told. I said,
"Well, they're in my car, if you'll follow me out". I had my Torerro in the
parking lot; we started walking out and I said, "What's this all about?" He
said, "Well, we just need to see your certificate". I went into the glove
compartment of my car, turned around, I said, "Well, what's the problem?"
And they said, "Let's just see your certificate".

They examined my Pilot's Certificate, my Flight Instructor's Certificate,
my Medical Certificate, handed me back my Pilot's Certificate, my Flight
Instructor's Certificate and a letter from the FAA indicating suspension;
in other words, seizing my Certificate without letting me know first
exactly what was happening. At that time I became extremely upset, almost -

JUDGE CAPPS: Which Certificate did they seize?

MR. CAMPBELL: The First Class Medical Certificate issued by Dr. Reynolds of
Fresno, California.

JUDGE CAPPS: Oh, I thought you said they gave that back to you.

MR. CAMPBELL: No, they gave me back my Pilot's Certificate, my Flight
Instructor's Certificate, but not my Medical Certificate, instead handing
me the letter of suspension. This was February 7th, I believe the letter
was dated, I believe, January 29th. I may be incorrect. I became extremely
upset, almost to the point of tears; explained the fact that I was in the
process of trying to raise funds in order to get the consultation and get
the evidence I needed to refute this, and I made exception with items on
the form, and they said, "Look, there's nothing we can do about this. We
are just here to present the forms." They accompanied me into Mr.
Scarboro's office where they explained that the process involved could be
lengthy, but may, indeed, be taken care of in a short period of time. They
also explained what was needed, specifically evidence to the contrary to
prove that I was qualified to hold the Certificate. Mr. Scarboro and I were
both of the impression and opinion that we could clean this whole matter up
rather shortly, so he kept me on the payroll, kept me in flight training,
at a great deal of expense to them, and I proceeded for the next month, to
undertake flight training and eventually pass a very rigid check ride to
Japan Airlines standards in order to be a flight instructor for the Japan
Airlines pilot training program at the Flight Crew Training Center.

I saw two doctors, a psychologist and a psychiatrist. The psychologist gave
me a battery of written testing, which was submitted to Dr. Sexton, who
told me that wasn't good enough and that I had to have other tests. I went
back a second time, at even more expense, got the tests done, psychological
written testing and oral testing, in addition to a bit of discussion. The
psychologist presenting the test at the time said, "Frankly, there is very
little difference between the tests" and he was rather doubtful about the
fact that the FAA wanted to give my Medical Certificate back. He felt that
I was being stalled.

JUDGE CAPPS: Wait a minute, we're running out of tape.

MR. CAMPBELL: I also completed several visits with a psychiatrist. Both
reports were submitted. After some consideration by the Western Region
Flight Surgeon -- I hope that's the term, Dr. Sexton -- he said, "I'm
worried about your impulse control" and explained that he would have an
interview with one of his doctors. In other words, somebody that they had
said, now, he said, frankly, it would be several weeks. The problem, at the
time, was the fact that I was nearing the check ride for Japan Airlines, at
which point I was either going to pass and/or fail, and if I passed, I was
going to have to go to work, or go on inactive list and not draw a
paycheck, which was staring me in the face, with additional expenses
mounting at the time; I was getting a little bit terrified.

I made numerous phone calls to various State and Government agencies trying
to get some help, specifically because there was a several-week lapse
between that phone call and the appointment made with Dr. Powers, all to no
avail, although the only concession I got was a gentleman from a
congressman's office in -- I'm trying to remember -- it's a county just
east of Nappa -- excuse me, west of Nappa -- I'm afraid I don't know, and I
can find out -- said that Dr. Sexton had promised, since the appointment
was on a Friday, he would evaluate it that evening and give me the results
as soon as possible, specifically that evening. This gentleman also offered
to provide a statement to that effect because, frankly, at that time I did
not believe it. That statement was never taken. It was offered. He was
willing to offer a notarized statement or whatever the proper legal
terminology is.

The appointment did take place with Dr. Powers. I spoke to him, in the
neighborhood, I believe, of less than two hours. I'm not quite sure if it
was more or less. During this period of time I gave him information as he
requested, although he apparently found great fault with the fact that I
did not respond until questioned about the World Trade Center incident.
Now this incident has been a matter of FAA record for many, many, many
months.

JUDGE CAPPS: Okay, you can tell me your side of that incident during the
testimony.

MR. CAMPBELL: Okay, fine, all right. At which point I went home for the
weekend, chewed a couple of fingernails, waited for a decision and
approximately two o'clock in the afternoon, Monday, I called Dr. Sexton for
I think the third time that day, badgered the poor man, and at which time
he apologized and said he was going to have to deny my Certificate. After I
calmed down, about fifteen minutes later, I'd gone in to speak to Scarboro,
told him what had happened, my parents were in San Francisco that weekend,
specifically to see me. I told them, and I made preparations to go home,
specifically because I was broke, and I had to borrow money to go home.
I went home. I found employment as an electronics technician. I had been
doing that job for eight months now. I found employment, I think, four days
after I got home. I was helped a great deal by a letter of recommendation
provided by the International Air Service Company who had said, at the
time, although that situation may have changed because of information they
have received, that they would be glad to have me back providing openings
existed. I went home. There is not a whole lot more to say, except for the
fact that I have recently -- first or second week of September -- enrolled
myself in the West Bergen Mental Health Center and am following the
prescribed program of treatment.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right, when did you enroll there?

MR. CAMPBELL: It was in September. I don't have an exact date.

JUDGE CAPPS: Of this year?

MR. CAMPBELL: Of this year.

JUDGE CAPPS: And, what's the name of the --

MR. CAMPBELL: West Bergen Mental Health Center.

JUDGE CAPPS: Westberg?

MR. CAMPBELL: West Bergen -- Bergen County.

JUDGE CAPPS: West Bergen --

MR. CAMPBELL: Mental Health Center. I spoke to one of their staff workers,
and their psychiatrists who have lined me up with a specific therapist,
and, matter of fact, I've got an appointment tomorrow night. The idea here
is no longer to gain just Medical Certificate, but specifically to remove
any doubt from my mind or anybody else's that I have a problem or will have
a problem or allow the problem to grow. The idea here, specifically, is the
problem has always existed. It's just a matter of control. I believe my
control's improved. It has a ways to go yet. I do not feel that I am
dangerous as a pilot. I think my record bears that out. I've been a damned
good flight instructor, and I'm proud of my record.

I also feel that my acts, well, although I have not felt a great deal of
guilt over a great deal of them, that have happened recently; I offer no
explanation other than the fact that I was disturbed up until Tulsa,
Oklahoma, and even, for instance, afterwards. However, I do believe that I
am a competent pilot in command.  I do believe I am a competent flight, and
I do believe I can prove that. Thank you.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right, we'll have a five-minute recess before the first
witness is heard.

(Whereupon, a five-minute recess was taken.)

JUDGE CAPPS: Miss Hauselt, you may call your first witness now.

MS. HAUSELT: Your Honor, I call Inspector Sandra Taylor.

Whereupon,

                           SANDRA TAYLOR

having first been duly sworn by Judge Capps, was examined and testified as
follows:

JUDGE CAPPS: At this point, let me give some more of my Law School
instructorship to Mr. Campbell. What is going to happen now is we've got
a witness on the stand under oath. This witness has been called by the
Government. The Government is now going to conduct what we call the direct
examination. Listen carefully, because you will have the right to
cross-examine this witness on any of the testimony brought out during the
direct examination. Do you understand?

MR. CAMPBELL: Yes, ma'am.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right.

                            DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MS. HAUSELT:

Q. Can you state your name for the record?

A. Yes. My name is Sandra Ann Taylor.

Q. And what is your business address?

A. My business address is the Portland General Aviation District Office,
Portland International Jetport, Portland, Maine, 04102.

Q: And you're employed by FAA?

A. Yes,

Q: In what capacity?

A: I am a Aviation Safety Inspector.

Q: What is your employment background with regard to  aviation?

A. I have worked as a flight instructor.

Q: For how long?

A: For approximately two years. I have held a Flight  Instructor's
Certificate for about five years. I have worked  as an Air Traffic
Controller for one year, and my present job for two and a half years.

Q. And could you just give us what your ratings certificates are?

A. Yes. I hold a Commercial Pilot's Certificate with an instrument in
Multi-Engine Rating; a Flight Instructor's Certificate, instrument and
multi-engine.

Q. And you know Mr. Campbell, who is the Respondent in this case?

A. Yes, I do.

Q. How did you come to know him?

A. I was called by Steve Rachelson, who was, at the time, the Chief Flight
Instructor for Nashua Aviation. He called and -

JUDGE CAPPS: Wait. He was Chief Flight Instructor?

THE WITNESS: Yes.

JUDGE CAPPS: For what?

THE WITNESS: Nashua Aviation and Supply Company. He called and told me of
the problem that Daniel Webster College was having with Mr. Campbell and
asked me if I would call Oklahoma City and verify that he did have valid
Pilot's Certificate.

BY MS. HAUSELT: (Resuming)

Q. What was the problem that he described with regard to Mr. Campbell?

A. He told me that Mr. Campbell was, at the time, working for Nashua
Aviation and Daniel Webster College as an instructor and he wanted to form
a parachuting club and he had approximately two hundred people interested
in this club, and they found out through the newspaper article from the
Tulsa Tribune that he had some past problems, and they were concerned.

Q. Did they question his qualifications?

A. Yes.

Q. What did you do with regards to Mr. Rachelson's request?

A. I called Oklahoma City and found out that the Certificates that he holds
right now are valid certificates.

Q. And in the course of that investigation, did you ascertain whether or
not Mr. Campbell was qualified as a parachute rigger?

A. I didn't at that point.

Q. But at a later time?

A. I did, yes.

Q. And what was the result of that? Was he qualified?

A. No, he was not qualified. Oklahoma City had no record of him having a
Parachute Rigger's Certificate.

JUDGE CAPPS: Why didn't you ascertain that at the time you ascertained the
validity of his current certificates?

THE WITNESS: Because at the time that wasn't the problem. That never
entered into it.

JUDGE CAPPS: Nobody told you anything about parachute rigging intentions?

THE WITNESS: No. That it was just to form a parachute club

JUDGE CAPPS: All right, did that parachute rigging activity or intended
activity subsequently come to your attention from someone?

THE WITNESS: Yes, from Mr. Campbell.

JUDGE CAPPS: From Mr. Campbell, himself.

THE WITNESS: That was the first time I heard about it.

JUDGE CAPPS: So you had contacted Mr. Campbell; is that correct?

THE WITNESS: Yes.

JUDGE CAPPS: All right.

BY MS. HAUSELT: (Resuming)

Q. Getting back to your initial check on Mr. Campbell's rating -- did you
make any phone calls to persons who had given him the tests?

A. Yes, I did. One of the Certificates that Mr. Campbell held was a
temporary certificate for flight instructor certificate, which meant that
he just recently took his flight instructor flight test, so I contacted a
James Brown, who was the examiner, and I talked to Mr. Brown about Mr.
Campbell.

Q. And where does Mr. Brown reside?

A. I -- Georgia.

Q. And what did Mr. Brown relate with regard to Mr. Campbell's employment?

A. Mr. Brown said that Mr. Campbell worked for him for approximately three
months. When Mr. Campbell first came there, he was given the necessary
instruction and the flight test to get his flight instructor's certificate,
and then began working for Mr. Brown, and two out of the three months that
he was there he was an ideal employee, and Mr. Brown said the third month
it was like someone pushed a button. That's a quote from Mr. Brown. His
personality changed completely and he had to be fired.

Q. Okay, did Mr. Brown relate any other information with regard to Mr.
Campbell?

A. Yes, he told me that one of the reasons he had to be fired was because
Mr. Campbell was telling his students stories about his parachuting while
they were supposed to be getting flight instruction, and his students were
beginning to complain that they weren't receiving the flight instruction
that they were paying for.

Q. At that time Mr. Brown did not relate anything with regard to -- I refer
you to page 36 -- do you have a copy -- at that first phone call that you
had with Mr. Brown, he did not relate anything with regard to Mr.
Campbell's conversation with a minister on the telephone which is embodied
in the second to the last paragraph, that letter on page 36?

A. Not my first conversation, no.

Q. At a subsequent time, did you speak with Mr. Brown?

A. Yes, I did.

Q. And at that time did he relate anything with regard to this story?

A. Yes, he told me the story that is written in his letter here.

Q. Okay, could you just relate what that was?

A. Okay. He said that a friend -- a girl -- from Alabama had come up to
Georgia to visit a friend out there, and while she was there, the girl and
Mr. Campbell met and they went out a couple of times. One day Mr. Campbell
came in to speak to James Brown, and he said that the girl had to go home
immediately because her house had burned down the night before, and so he
made sure that she got on a bus, home to Alabama. He discovered shortly
afterwards that that never occurred. She did go home on the bus, but she
went home because her stay was over. She was just going home; that was all.
Her house had never burned down. Later Mr. Campbell said that on the way to
Alabama the bus that the girl was taking had an accident and the girl was
in critical condition in the hospital, and Mr. Campbell went to see her a
couple o